tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3832968484796417459.post6349484092238144771..comments2023-10-08T10:12:48.444-07:00Comments on Thoughts per Coffee: Testing for the God Factor-Belief AnalyticsJust Jillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17617582702842642998noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3832968484796417459.post-34627663983268147052016-02-14T19:41:29.665-08:002016-02-14T19:41:29.665-08:00On the Myers Briggs assessment, I come out strongl...On the Myers Briggs assessment, I come out strongly intuitive. And I do believe I have very good intuition, as the word is used in common parlance. I further believe that intuition is based on data gathered--it's just done faster and less consciously. Those of us who are hyper-vigilant (being raised in a fundamentalist family will do that to you) perhaps become strongly intuitive, eh?<br />However, in addition to being intuitive, I am also a logical, analytical thinker who tends to prefer to do many things in a linear fashion. (BTW, I got the last two questions right but was stumped on the first one, failing to realize that the remaining ten cents would be split evenly between the bat and the ball because the bat cost ONLY $1.00 more than the ball. As others here have said, it made perfect sense to me once I saw the answer.) I am an artist, but I have long realized that I am a person with little imagination (my art tends to be fairly representational). When my daughter was little, I felt at a loss when she wanted to play any sort of pretend games with me. I have struggled my entire adult life with a nostalgia for my former belief in God, and struggled to understand how even some very smart people, whom I love (eg, said daughter), can believe in a supernatural power. The most interesting answer I have encountered was based on a woman's research (sorry, can't remember her name, but she was interviewed on NPR) connecting imagination and religious belief. Her thesis was that there is a correlation between imagination and belief in God (and conversely, lack of imagination and atheism). She further posits that imaginative people hear a voice in their head as "other" (God) whereas unimaginative people think of the voice in their head as a part of themselves. (I think Jiminy Cricket is my better self, you think Jiminy Cricket is the Lord.) This theory really struck a chord with me and somehow has helped me accept both my own point of view and others'. I feel less judgmental toward everyone, myself included.Reluctant Atheistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3832968484796417459.post-49356410717772163992013-11-05T06:20:02.993-08:002013-11-05T06:20:02.993-08:00Hi jewelfox; welcome to Thoughts per Coffee. I agr...Hi jewelfox; welcome to Thoughts per Coffee. I agree with you; one can be good at both or one can be bad at both. I have another personality test for you. In this test Helen Fisher identifies four types of personalities. (Forgive me for putting people into boxes. I don't think that everyone fits neatly into categories; though I do find all of this fascinating). <br /><br />The four personality types are 'Builders', 'Directors', 'Explorers' and 'Negotiators'. There are easily drawn conclusions as to which personality types lend themselves to conservative religiosity. Though you do find all types within Mormondom you can guess which personality types struggle with questions and which personality types have no problem with strict rules... Or as you put it; allow themselves to be preyed upon by the LDS Church. <br /><br />Anyway here you go; I don't take it too seriously but I do enjoy the sociology of it all. http://thoughtspercoffee2.blogspot.com/2013/03/helen-fishers-personality-test.htmlJust Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17617582702842642998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3832968484796417459.post-47137410549312658152013-11-03T14:08:48.234-08:002013-11-03T14:08:48.234-08:00I got all three questions right. >_>b
I thi...I got all three questions right. >_>b<br /><br />I think your assumption is incorrect. Being bad at analytic thinking doesn't mean that you're good at intuitive thinking, or vice-versa. Both are skills that have separate uses, and I think it'd be interesting to see a separate quiz to gauge skill at intuitive thinking. Maybe something along the lines of an "emotional intelligence" test.<br /><br />I think intuition is very helpful in processing situations where there is no hard data or externally-verifiable evidence. You probably wouldn't construct a spreadsheet to determine your sexual orientation, for instance, unless you were <em>really</em> confused (or lacked intuitive reasoning skill and were trying to use what strengths you had).<br /><br />Each type of intelligence can come up with different, and not always equally useful, conclusions about a given situation. Analytic intelligence is very good at finding out if objective truth claims are correct, so long as they're testable. But unless there's hard data involved -- and having poor intuition, in this case, might mean one has trouble deciding what data to use and how to collect it -- it's not very good at figuring out what's best for your emotional well-being, whether you're trying to decide between smartphone OSes or churches.<br /><br />I think it's possible to have well-developed analytical <em>and</em> intuitive reasoning. To go to a particular church because you know on the one hand it's healthy for you, and you know on the other that they themselves entertain doubts about their untestable truth claims and agree with the verifiable evidence about the claims that can be tested. It's also possible for someone like this to not go to a church at all or have any spiritual or religious beliefs, because they correctly believe they don't need them. Just as different people have different aptitudes for each kind of thinking, I think different people have different needs for and should have different approaches to spirituality.<br /><br />I also think it's bad there there exist organizations like the LDS church, which seem to prey on people who have just enough intuitive reasoning to "know" that it makes them feel good but not enough analytical skill to see through its lies ... or enough intuition to realize that something that makes them feel good can badly hurt someone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3832968484796417459.post-39469559640493582932013-11-01T00:36:25.017-07:002013-11-01T00:36:25.017-07:00Good for you Donna. The first time I answered the ...Good for you Donna. The first time I answered the questions I got all three of them wrong. After seeing the answers it all made sense and I could logic my way through. It's been about eight months since I have looked at the questions and I thought for sure I would be able to see the answers easily this time. But it was still hard for me to figure them out and I fancy myself a pretty smart person. I guess that means you can take the girl out of the magic but you can't take the magic out of the girl. Just Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17617582702842642998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3832968484796417459.post-58025347619651140462013-10-31T11:11:56.751-07:002013-10-31T11:11:56.751-07:00I managed to get the second question right. So I g...I managed to get the second question right. So I guess I've lost some of the magical thinking. :)Donna Bantahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271377907141866718noreply@blogger.com